EP 24 · 44:10

Artemis II crew overview (Wiseman, Glover, Koch, Hansen)

From Artemis II, Apollo, and the Physics of Going Back to the Moon

Episode
16/23
A first-principles Artemis II deep dive—SLS, Orion, free-return trajectories, and translunar injection—plus a clean teardown of the biggest Apollo hoax claims.
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44:11Instagram. >> I've seen actually that all of the almost all the posts about Artemis, it's get it's going very viral and when the with the crew backgrounds and it looks like a Hollywood movie, >> dude. They look they look good. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's not weird, guys. I'm just saying they look good. >> You're just using your observational skills. >> Yeah. I'm just Yeah. Yeah. symmetric faces, that kind of thing, you know, it's very scientific. Okay, [laughter] you know. Anyways, okay. So, let's start with Commander Reed Wisman. He spent 165 days in space. He's a graduate of the Renestler Polytenic Institute in Troy. Um, RPI, we did a paper from them. That was the string theory paper from two episodes ago.

44:52>> He did a bachelor's in computer engineering and then he did a master's in engineering at John's Hopkins. It's engineering, but we'll give him. He's a captain in the US Navy and he is going to be the commander >> of this mission. And that photo you saw, he's got he's proudly wearing the US Navy >> Yes. >> um sort of insignia on the ISS when he was there. >> Yes. >> All right. Next, we've got pilot Victor Glover. He spent 167 days in space. He's a high school quarterback from Ontario, California. Southern California, boy. >> This guy's from SoCal. He went to Calpali slow in San Louis abyspo BS in engineering masters from air university

45:34which I didn't know was a thing. So apparently the air force just has a university that is it doesn't have a campus but you can take courses as part of the air force and he took it on campus at Edwards Air Force Base in Southern California and he got his masters. >> Um and that was a photo of him working on some hydroponics plant experiment in the ISS. Next we've got Christina Ko. She has spent 328 days in space. >> Oh, gee. >> She's going to be the first woman on the moon. The She's actually the longest. >> Not on just to be >> Yeah. And not as as of yet, but she's also going to be on Artemis 3 to get on the moon, but she'll be the first woman to >> Knock on wood.

46:14>> Knock on wood. Yeah. I don't want to do commentators [laughter] commentators curse or anything, but she's going to at least be the first woman, if everything goes well, to round the moon. Yes. you know, and be the furthest woman in outer space. Uh, she's actually quite cool because she had an electrical engineering and a physics bachelor's. >> We love to see it. >> We love to see a physics bachelors from NC State in Raleigh. >> Yeah. Which >> it's pronounced Raleigh. >> Oh, whatever. [laughter] And and then an MS in electrical engineering from the same place. >> Yes. >> Um, she's got the longest single continuous stay in space for a woman. And part of her paradigm was, you know, her extended mission is being used to

46:55study the physical, biological, and mental effects of long-term space travel on women because we have a ton of data of long-term space travel on men. But, >> you know, moving forward, we need we need all the data from everywhere, right? So, her >> 328 days is going to be crucial for that understanding. Mhm. >> She's worked in Antarctica, Gddard Space Flight Center, and the Applied Physics Lab at Johns Hopkins. The Applied Physics Lab is like >> kind of like the JPL of Maryland. Um, you know how JPL is associated with Caltech? Applied Physics Lab is associated with John's Hopkins. It's kind of this independent research entity that does crazy good stuff.

47:35>> Okay. Um, the photo actually shows her with the Cold Atom Lab. This is really cool. So what they did on the ISS was create a quantum experiment. They're cooling rubidium atoms down to near absolute zero, billionth of a degree near absolute zero. And they're creating a Bose Einstein condensate, which is this fifth form of matter on the International Space Station. So they can do like quantum physics experiments on the International Space Station. >> This is this is like science fiction stuff. I mean, the ISS is crazy because you have like a you have like a university physics lab but in outer space in zero G. It's one of the craziest things that we've made as human

48:16beings. And she was she was doing that in that photo. That was that was incredible. And then finally, we've got Jeremy Hansen, >> the squid. >> Yeah. And you know, he's Canadian, so we don't have to talk about it. [laughter] >> No, I'm just kidding. >> I mean, Toronto lost to, you know, the Dodgers. >> We will never forget, >> you know. I'm sorry. It's just [laughter] how it goes. >> It's okay, everyone. I was I was born in Montreal, so I am also Canadian by at least birth. We support our >> maybe current/former allies. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't [laughter] know anymore right? >> We don't know how it's going. >> Anyways, okay. So, jokes aside, one thing that struck me about him is he's had zero days in space. This is going to be his first time in space. >> He's going around the moon. >> It's pretty It's pretty crazy.

48:57>> What a lucky lucky individual. Yes. >> Um he got his bachelor's from the Royal Military College in space science and then a master's in physics. >> Another physics. >> Yeah. And I checked out his master's thesis. By the way, um I scrolled through his master's thesis. The first thing was the abstract was written in French and I was already >> ticked off by the whole thing. I was like, what the hell? Yeah. But then actually he wrote in English because of course science is done in English. Um, the master's thesis was wide field of wide field view of satellite tracking. >> Mhm. >> Very cool. Because what he ended up doing was basically creating a really cheap CCD camera that could track

49:38satellites very accurately and then from that figure out what satellites were doing what. It it was a really cool master's thesis to be honest. He he's got the rank of colonel in the Royal Canadian Air Force and now he's going to be going to the moon. And I have to say um the crew has a great sense of humor. They were on the Cobar Report for an interview last year and it's one of the funniest interviews. Just a little tidbit that I want to share from that interview. Um Jeremy Hansen was seated at the end because he's the tallest of them, but Coar made a joke about how you're Canadian so you're you're seated at the end. But the funniest thing was, you know, he

50:20acknowledged that the US could do this on its own, but it's an incredible testament to what NASA is doing as an international entity >> to bring together someone from the Canadian Air Force to go into space. >> The funniest thing that he said was there was a joke about Coar asked, "So, who's going to turn the oxygen tanks?" That's a reference to Apollo 13 because the explosion on Apollo 13 happened because the the the pilot on Apollo 13 was asked to turn on the oxygen tank stirring >> thing. >> And that oxygen tank stirring is what

51:00created the explosion that became Apollo 13. Right. So, so it's sort of this like taboo in NASA of like cuz somebody's got to stir the oxygen tanks. So, who's it going to be? And Jeremy, very, very funny. He was like, "Actually, I've been asking to throw one switch and they've told me that I can do [laughter] that." It was so funny, dude. Because everybody else was just like laughing their ass up. >> Well done. Well done. Well, he understood the assignment. >> Yeah, dude. I thought it was just so funny. And the chemistry and the crew is just so great. Like, I'm I'm really looking forward to this being a success, >> you know? >> That's so good. Oh, it's so good. >> Yeah. So, I think we've covered

51:41structure of the mission. >> Yeah. >> What it's aiming to do. Artemis 2 is a part of a long-term project that will ultimately end with having a semi-permanent slash the goal of having a semi-permanent/permanent uh >> presence on the moon. And so for folks who are saying, "Oh, they're going to the moon but not landing. Why?" I come back to my sports analogy which was like imagine you're the GM or the head coach or the manager of an English Premier League soccer team right in the 90s. Let's say I'm Alex Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United. I have Beckham, I have uh Paul

52:22Scholes, I have Gary Neville, Roy Keane. I have all these great players. We win five champion. We five Premier Leagues. Most winningest team ever. It's amazing. What made that team work? We had the money, we had the talent, and then all of the Janice Qua that makes teams work. >> Yeah. >> Now, fast forward 25 years and same Manchester United, we don't have any of those players. The players we now have, meh. >> Mhm. >> Not comparable. The money we now have, meh, not as effective cuz the Qataris have come in with money. The Americans have come in with money. Okay.

53:02>> And so now all the best players, all the talent, all the in you've let Carrington where we do training, it's run down now. None of the people that were there in the '9s that knew how we built a championship winning team. >> Yeah. >> None of them are here anymore. It's a bunch of new people who've never done it before. That analogy is exactly why you can't just rinse repeat going to the moon. >> Yeah. You can't just go to the moon. all of the different component parts that make a Super Bowl winning team, a premiership winning team. It's hard to go back to back to do just winning sports. >> Yeah. >> Right. In backto-back years with the same everything. >> Imagine, right, trying to do the most

53:45impossible task in humanity >> with no like almost none of the muscle memory from the first time. I just bring that analogy to try to help people reframe how they think about this because >> it's it's just not it's it's it's not the same anything. >> Yeah. >> And so of course we're going to have to again we don't have 2% of the GDP to go forward like money is really a big driver of us being able to do stuff and we just there's just not the money there. But we're going to with that entry point talk about a couple of the myths that arise as it relates to any conversation about the moon.

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    Artemis II, Apollo, and the Physics of Going Back to the Moon

    How Artemis II works—and why Apollo denial collapses under physics.

    A first-principles Artemis II deep dive—SLS, Orion, free-return trajectories, and translunar injection—plus a clean teardown of the biggest Apollo hoax claims.