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5:44>> They're planning to land their tyonauts by the 2030s. >> Mhm. >> Russia is colluding with China, if that's what you can call >> collusion. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. So, just like we're colluding with like 60 other countries, the two of them are, you know, colluding with themselves. >> And it's a very different ballgame now, right? >> One of our crew that's going on Artemis 2 is Canadian. That just shows just how different Artemis is from Apollo. Apollo is just all American astronauts that are like Air Force pilots or Navy pilots. Now we've got a literal Canadian. >> Yeah. >> Who's who's who's on the mission. I >> I what's interesting the timing which
6:24they could never have expected because Artemis has been planning this for such a long period of time. >> The geopolitical context in which the launch is happening is interesting. >> Yeah. Yeah. because the prime minister of Canada just came out at the World Economic Forum and gave a speech effectively, >> you know, they're calling it the great divorce. >> Yeah. >> Uh you know, from a political social context in terms of Canada no longer viewing the United States as a reliable partner right? >> And sort of encouraging the EU as a block >> to think about what the future looks like uh with an unreliable partner in the US. Yeah.
7:12>> There's some things, you know, that are changing that in recent memory, but historically that has been uh apolitical. >> Yeah. >> And everyone recognizes the value of all of us working together because the the the fruits of that are just so beneficial to everybody. >> Yeah. But this is is happening in a geopolitical environment that is becoming more contentious very not similar to the cold war era but it's just very it is not a stable geopolitical context in which this is happening but it is great that the collaboration in this is still going forth despite >> the geopolitical tensions. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think I think you make a
7:53very good point. You know, space is off Earth by definition, right? And it it makes you think, okay, Earth is like this rock [laughter] and then and then there's another rock that >> very few humans have been on. Fine. It's all been American. But >> it's we're just on this rock, right? And the great thing about the Artemis Accords and the Artemis program to me is that it's one part of American geopolitical policy that has kept that philosophy. >> Yes. >> You know, >> I I I really like that. >> Mhm. >> So Apollo, it was this flag in the dust
8:35model, not like Artemis, right? flag in the dust. Meaning like you just put a you plant a American flag on the moon and it's designed to demonstrate the superiority of our liberal democracy that's embedded in capitalism over Soviet communism. It's an ideological battle that we're trying to win. It's technological at the end of the day, but the reason why we're spending all that money is because of ideology. Right. >> Right. And that's very important. And Artemis is really a paradigm shift towards permanence and sustainability. Apollo was we get there, we plant the flag, we come back. >> No repeatability necessarily like like it was it wasn't the core function. It's the destination was the goal, not the
9:15journey. >> Yes. Yeah. And in an Artemis, we're trying to get there and we're trying to really establish a permanent presence, right? President Donald Trump issued an executive order um that called to begin