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3:07>> But in that statement, he actually gives a clue as to why we're doing that in the first place, which is we want to make it so hard that the Soviets can't catch up. At the time, there was a Cold War sprint, right? The Soviets had already beaten us with Sputnik. Yuri Gagarin was on the cover of Time magazine with a hammer and sickle. And we wanted to make the finish line so far away that everyone who was playing this race, the space race, had to start over from scratch. And so we're like, we're going to go to the moon. Now, Yuri Gagarin and the Mercury astronauts, they just went into Earth orbit, right? That's about like 100 km to like 200, 300, 500 km.
3:49Now we're doing hundreds of thousands of kilome. The moon is 380 km away. That's requires a whole new set of technology, a whole new paradigm shift in how we even approach the space problem. We got to land someone, we got to bring them back. >> We got to do all these things, right? >> And so the idea was we just make this the finish line in classic American fashion. If we lost, we're just like, "No, no, it's not over. >> Yeah, it's it's over there." >> Yeah. Yeah. What are you talking about? It's over there. Like Like we're still running right? And that's sort of the crucible in which Apollo was born. Right. Right. Now
4:30Apollo [snorts] was a unateral US effort. US astronauts, US technology, US money. >> Mhm. >> Everything was American. And I think an important point just to punctuate that is in an effort to win the Cold War race, we were willing at the time to do everything. >> Yeah. >> Put the money, recruit the resources, the talent to execute on it. >> Yeah. >> We don't live in that world anymore. >> Exactly. Exactly. And so Apollo was this just American all-American model. Artemis is very different. It's an international effort. There's this thing
5:10called the Artemis Accord. 60 countries have signed it. It's a peaceful, transparent, and sustainable space exploration treaty that's saying, you know, we're not going to we're not going to just expend resources. It's going to be sustainable. It's going to be cooperative. But all of these countries are sort of on the Western block. >> It's NATO plus allies, right? And there is still kind of a space race. There is kind of a multi-polar competition. China is talking about landing tyonauts. That's what they call their astronauts.