EP 66 · 32:42

Surgery keeps getting smaller: from ether to Star Trek

From Destroying Tumors With Sound: Histotripsy with Dr. Zhen Xu

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32:46of this potential non-invasive surgery. And if you actually are looking at how medicine is practiced, right. And it's, there has been, we have been going from stone age only just a hundred years ago to now where we are, and it's all fueled by medical innovation. So in 1860, when anesthesia was invented, that's when people first time could do real surgery, right? Before you get something, you die, right? And that happened. Then in 1900, Marie Curie discovered

33:27radiation and that basically resulting in this whole radiation oncology thing. And we take radiation treatment so grateful, but it's really started, even not to that, you know, like a hundred years ago. And then, 1960 were the optical people discovered that the optical fiber can made it so small and still light and without burning things and optical lens can made it so small. So that lead to what's called endoscopic surgery, right? So they can put your small optical camera and go in and do mini surgery. So you don't have to just cut open the big thing.

34:10So I had my gallbladder removed with scandoscopic surgery with four little holes. My father had it removed with a 13 centimeter incision, right? So everything is moving. Medicine has, you know, from less and less invasive and less toxic. And I saw this opportunity that I was looking for something that's entirely non-invasive and non-toxic. And I really thought, even though I was way ahead of curve and people thought I was crazy, but I thought the Stargate thing where you have people go in and you can, you know, sit in there and Star Trek, right? Like you can perform the Star Trek, you know, you can perform the non

34:52-invasive surgery, then you come out. Yeah. Just scans you and then you're like, fine. You scan you, you're fine. Yeah. I really thought that could be a reality. And I was working towards that. So it's a 10 year long road, but a scientific discovery that can be entirely new and a potential non -invasive surgery that, you know, maybe I will, is this possible? I will not be the one who actually make it happen. And I'm lucky that I made it happen, but someone will make it happen. But if I have, you know, may do something to contribute towards that, you know, some future thing, I still thought that could be a very impactful thing.

35:34And I couldn't think of anything better to do for my career anyway. So I thought, why not? Right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm fair enough. I mean, it's kind of your baby because you started it in 2002, 2004, right? So there's always like that belief that, okay, if I like found it, I'm going to be the one that like, if I don't do in some sense. Right. Yeah.

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