What would remain of our civilization?

39:09>> So, suppose like something crazy happened, right? And like humans died. >> Yeah. >> And aliens came back in like a million years. >> Mhm. >> Right? In some insane amount of time. Like, what would they see and what would they judge from us? I was thinking about this. Like, for example, even if Earth looks very very different, there's quite a possibility that like the moon is not going to look that different. And so, if they ever if they saw like the remnants of Apollo 11 [laughter] and all of our Apollo missions, they'd be like, "This is crazy." >> Yeah, they got from there. >> They got off that planet with a pretty strong gravitational field. >> Yeah. >> And like, it seems they walked around.

39:50There's like footprints and stuff. Cuz the footprints aren't going to go away. Like, there's not enough meteor impacts for the footprints to go. They got a car with like wheels. I think they'll know what wheels are, right? And and they they might be like, "Damn." >> They were so close. >> They were pretty good. >> They They almost escaped the single point of failure. >> Yeah. Or like if they came if they came on Earth, right? And they went and they saw CERN, which is underground, so it might be >> Oh, maybe. yeah. Okay. Shielded from vegetation loss, right? And atmospheric loss. Like I can imagine like Manhattan, all the all of the buildings might like crumble and fall. Maybe the steel will still be there and like the the fact

40:31that we have pure steel like in in like these sort of uh columns, they might be like this is pretty cool. >> just a bunch of pointies >> Yeah. >> coming out of the ground. >> Yeah, but like but CERN for example, it's underground and it's a giant thing and there's massive magnets, right? There's going to be wires of pure copper and silicon and all of this other stuff. They're going to look at that and be like, this is nice. Yeah. Like that those are the things that I think would be our pyramids, right? If the aliens came down and searched for our pyramids or our Coliseum. >> Yeah. >> They would they would find CERN and LIGO and the moon landing, you know? I I

41:11think that's kind of cool to think about. >> I As a as a last note on that, it's it's [snorts] sort of like, you know, for civilizations that came before us, large-scale infrastructure was the thing that was signature of it. For our generation, it's almost like large-scale uh I I don't want to use scientific loosely, but like this instrumentation >> Yeah. >> um >> That's like pure and like you know you know what I mean? >> single focus, single function. It's not to honor some dead pharaoh. It's not to facilitate the transfer goods and services. It it's purely It kind of speaks to oh, we they became a curiosity-based

41:52civilization where they had some level of abundance or sustainability, not evenly distributed, that allowed them to spend money on things that didn't have a direct functional outcome to their own survival. >> Exactly, yeah. >> interesting. >> It is, right? Because like because they would look at CERN and they could see they would see See electromagnets. They would see the solenoids of the of the of the copper becoming electromagnets, and they could probably discern because they know the laws of electromagnetism that these were giant magnets that were curving the thing, you know? And like and and and there's these giant centers where the two the two beams sort of meet. So, you see the two beams meeting up, and then right where those two beams

42:32meet up, coincidentally, there's a giant detector, right? [laughter] That's the size of like a building underground. So, maybe that's a particle collider. Like, you know? >> That's really good. I know that's a good one. >> I I thought I thought I like I was just thinking whenever I think about like old stuff, >> Yeah. >> I think what would what would a civilization 10,000 years, a million years from now look at us and say, "Damn, that was sick." >> Yeah. >> Right? If the International Space Station is still >> around. >> floating around. Probably not because it's you know, it's going to but like if it was, actually James Webb Space Telescope. >> Yeah, that would be >> That thing is at Lagrange 2 or something, right? That's like way out of our Earth orbit. So, that thing's just going to be following us around the sun.

43:13Like, if they saw that, >> It's a techno signature, you know? >> Yeah, if they saw that, they'd be like, "This is insane." >> Yeah. Yeah, they were they were looking for us. >> Yeah. >> We were we just came a little late. We missed the train to the train. That's really interesting because when when you you know, a lot of times that you know, people in sports and entertainment and media or whatever, even in life, think about legacy. >> Yeah. >> But they I always talk about things that like three scales. You have your you have the individual or four scales. You have the individual unit, the family unit, your like community unit, which could be neighborhood, city, state, nation-state, and then you have the civil civilizational unit. And a lot of times the legacy conversation is talked about in the individual, family, or

43:55uh neighborhood like context. >> Yeah. >> What is our civilizational legacy to an