1,422 words · auto-generated from the episode video
1:34:47Maya is the illusion. That's the Hindu sort of word for it, the Sanskrit word for it. Um it's defining this as like a cosmic mechanism that turns some singular reality, right? A singular reality into all of the manifestations that we see here today. And you know, a lot of times Now, this is where I'm I'm going off on a personal limb. A lot of times people think of Hinduism as a polytheistic religion because we've got millions of gods and all this other kind of stuff. But you know, if you if you go down to this level, it's this. >> Right. >> There's a singular reality that is getting manifested in all these sorts of forms, right? There's all these forms of
1:35:27the divine that you can worship and things like that. You don't have to worship. I don't know if I worship, but like this idea that like all of the manifestation and all of the richness that we see in the world is from a singular reality. I really like that concept. >> Not all of the gods have admin privileges. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> There there is only one super admin. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like he's uh he he's distributing. >> Being too right. >> Right? But all of the other ones are really just >> the an extension >> them >> Yes. >> he he or she or them >> Yes. >> like being like like just like trolling >> Yes. >> [laughter] >> Yes. >> in the world >> Yes. >> right? There's another Upanishad that I really
1:36:08like which is the Kena Upanishad which maybe we'll talk about in some sense. Um that deals with the question of consciousness. The Kena Upanishad is really the who Upanishad. Like who am I? Who are you? And what is all this? Right? Um it's talking about who is the seer behind the I. The I is like this instrument that is >> Exactly. >> like taking in photons and then creating an image. >> Yeah. >> But like who is the the thingy >> And then interpreting it. And then like who defines how it's interpreted? >> Yeah, yeah, like what you interpret and what I interpret. >> Yeah. And what is the consciousness? Is it the same? >> Right. >> Right? Is it the same entity that is I mean it's it's I I don't I'm not going to say that I'm an expert in it. I'm still reading a lot and I'm still trying
1:36:49to understand the whole thing. But it's it's crazy cool that like as humans we've been thinking about this from different points of view, right? Plato's [clears throat] been thinking about the forms. The Upanishads have been thinking about the illusion. And now we get to modern quantum mechanics. >> What is real? >> with What is Real? This is an amazing book. This was actually in one of the comments when people talked about like What's the >> the book we should >> book that we should have? This is something that I already read and I'm a huge fan of this book. Adam Becker, PhD in astrophysics, I believe. Absolutely wonderful exposition of the state of reality and that question of what is real in quantum mechanics. Is
1:37:29it the wave function? >> Mhm. >> Is [clears throat] the wave function a real thing? If the wave function is a real thing, what the hell is a collapse of a wave function? >> exactly. >> Right? How come it collapses for me? And then does it also collapse for you? But then you're collapsing at a different time. So how does your collapse know that mine collapsed? Right? And it goes over um the Copenhagen interpretation. It then goes over Einstein's qualms with the Copenhagen interpretation in a way that is a lot more subtle than people give Einstein credit for. They say, "Oh, Einstein just didn't like quantum mechanics." Well, there's really good reasons why he didn't like quantum mechanics. And this goes into [clears throat] that. And then he goes into the bomb interpretation with the
1:38:11pilot waves. And he goes into the Bell Bell's inequality that we covered in the America 250 episode. And he goes into some of the real implications. Also, Everett's multi-worlds interpretation and the many worlds interpretation where there's just one giant wave function. The reason why I like Everett's many worlds interpretation is because night like, you know, it's kind of selfishly it aligns with my preexisting philosophical theories that I've learned from the Upanishads, which is there is one reality and we are all seeing manifestations of that one reality. Where Well, according to Everett, there is one universal wave function that we
1:38:51are all entangled with and I am entangled with the observation like when when I observe a photon here versus here, it's because I am entangled with the photon and so I observed it here because the part of my wave function is entangled with observing the photon here. There's another part of my wave function that is entangled with the photon being observed over there and that went over there. And I can never get access to it. >> And then that universe Spider-Man is Tobey Maguire and this universe Spider-Man is Tom Holland. >> Exactly. Yeah, this is where Marvel and everything comes in. But yeah, the reason why I'm an Everedian and a many worlds person is because, you know, I come from the Eastern philosophy of like
1:39:32a one wave function universe, a one reality universe. And that comes from my reading of the Upanishads since I was a child. So, these are the three that are going into the philosophy um shelf. And there's only three. So, if there's more, if there's some Buddhist stuff that aligns with that philosophy, I know there's some Mahayana Buddhism that goes into the world being an illusion. I'm not fully aware of Buddhist philosophy, but if you guys if you guys have um some ideas, please let us know. If there's any other philosophical books that you'd like us to to put on the shelf, please let us know. >> But now I think you guys guys kind of have an understanding of >> Exactly. You know, what we're going for.
1:40:13And it's not that um we're only going for this interpretation. >> Right. >> If there are other interpretations that are compelling, I would love to read it. Um I'm not sold cuz I don't know what's going on. >> know. That And that's being being okay saying I don't know. >> Yeah, I don't I don't know. >> I don't know. It's okay. >> a weird question. And it might be beyond science because the scientific method relies on observation. >> Right. And if what How do you rely on observation something that's unobservable? >> yeah. like I'm I'm I'm trying to question what the act of observation is. >> Exactly. >> So. >> Yes. Th- This is I The last note I'll make on this what is real um for those who are uh
1:40:54interested in a visual a visual example of this idea of the Everettian interpretation uh is the movie Cloverfield Paradox, which got really bad reviews. It's in the Cloverfield >> Yeah, no, I want to watch it because it got I I loved Cloverfield. >> it got really bad reviews, but it it dealt with this concept in a way that was intriguing. And it had, you know, it it it was sort of Marva Marvellian a little bit, but it it did it, you know, Earth was basically having a fuel crisis, an energy crisis. They built this giant
1:41:36energy producing apparatus in space and this universe and this universe bumped up against each other. >> Oh, interesting. Okay. >> then uh hijinks >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> ensues. Um and it's it's it really it was it really was an interesting way to visualize what would be the human experience of that because obviously we don't have it happen on a regular basis unless UAP >> Yeah. Interdimensional. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> They maybe into the dimensional. >> the one year anniversary episode. We're not going to not talk about it. >> it in here I think three or four times legitimately in this episode. Last thing I'll just note is when you talk about the uh the Maya