Results: cue incorporation + improved puzzle solving

35:27success on the cute puzzles versus the not cute puzzles. >> That's so crazy. So people who got the the inception >> Yeah. >> to solve the puzzle 40% of the time were able to do so after the fact. Greater than those who did not have the inception. >> Yeah. >> So if you didn't get incepted, you got you didn't do well. Yeah. If you did get >> you you did a little bit better because like sleep always like like natural sleep >> will get you you know a little bit farther. But this is like engineered dreaming is is making you like superhuman at solving these puzzles. >> This is this is this is I can't I just >> it's insane dude. >> For those who are listening on audio my

36:08my mouth has been mostly open slack jaw for a lot of the story >> dude. Yeah it's it's pretty >> this is quite nice. >> This is quite nice. >> This is quite nice. And these studies are not in a vacuum, right? There's actually a lot a broad effort to do dream engineering and sleep engineering in general. Um it reminded me of this study from MIT called dormio. They were actually targeting nonREM sleep. So this is um like the edge of sleep N1 which is called hypnosia. >> It's like right when you're falling asleep, okay? It's this transitional state between wakefulness and sleep. And they had a sensor. They had a glove that people would put on with sensors and then um it would give a cue like think of a tree >> right when you were going to sleep.

36:50Okay, this thing was targeting um divergent creativity which is that I the the >> you know sorry this thing was actually targeting convergent creativity which is like the the going down going down the the the rabbit hole, right? And so and so we're we're we're doing like separate different things and this is part of that. So I'm just saying there's like a huge modality of scientific research >> that is going into specifically sleep engineering >> and this is like one of the coolest >> examples that I've seen of like >> Yeah. >> No, this is this is this this is very good stuff. I mean have you ever have you ever had a lucid dream before?

37:32>> I've had it once. Yeah. But I haven't I haven't been able to like control it, you know? >> I I I hadn't I want to say twice, but it was only awareness. It was not >> Yeah. I wasn't able to like literally be like, "All right, I'm going to fly now." >> Yeah. >> You know, I wish I could do that. >> If you've ever had a lucid dream before, it is one of the coolest things. It can be obviously very scary like like depending on whatever is in your subconscious and stuff like that, but >> um it is such a fascinating mindbending thing >> because it's so bizarre >> obviously >> um but you're there. It it it's it's like movies like Inception always make me like well like >> you know what is like do you have an

38:13opposite life an opposite world in your dream that is consistent because it just kind of mirrors your own life and has different parameters and relationships that transcend time and stuff like that but you just don't remember it. >> Obviously we will find out soon because now we can incept our dreams. >> Yeah. No, no. [laughter] I think this is I think this is opening up doors for all kinds of really cool research and there is clinical potential for this, right? For example, if you can do like nighttime neuroprothetics, that's a new and emerging field. >> People who have PTSD, right? PTSD can be modeled as a pathological local minimum in some landscape. You it's like a fear network and you're trapped in this local minima, right? And you can't get out.

38:54Well, if you do targeted memory reactivation during REM