DMAT and modern “Roman-inspired” low-carbon concrete

23:29that is trying to make sustainable and durable concrete solutions inspired by ancient Roman concrete. >> That's >> okay. So, he's he's using this knowledge that he's gaining from all the research that he's doing on ancient Rome to commercialize eco concrete. And they've actually got pilot projects in the US and in Europe right now. >> Shout out Admir. Uh well done. Yeah. >> Uh well done when everyone thought it was nothing to see here. >> Yeah. Yeah. And he he kept at it, right? And he proved Vuvius wrong. Now there's a there might be a reason good reason that Vuvius was wrong. Okay. And it's because that Vuvius actually wrote his um architecture textbook in like 30 BC.

24:12But the architectural revolution that we talk about the pantheon pontugard and all that that happened about a hundred years after. So it could be that in those hundred years 100 years is a long time right even in ancient Rome. So they could have they could have actually figured out this new technique of hot mixing >> after he wrote that textbook >> and you know given the given how fragile >> any textbooks are maybe somebody else wrote another textbook but it's just been lost to the ages right so that's probably one of the reasons the other reason the other reason could be that it was just like translated wrong from like ancient >> you know Roman whatever Latin I guess they were using Um, so there's a lot of

24:55reasons, but this is a pretty good like nail in the coffin in in the cold mixing vituvian >> vuvian >> theory >> theory. Yeah. Right. Right. And >> like we're pretty sure we're right that it is hot mixing and and the the the group at MIT has actually replicated the the the architecture, right? >> And they've actually started a whole company with this new type of concrete. So it's clearly working. I was going to say the way the way you know something is working is when the uh >> the capital markets get involved. That's when you know it's uh >> it's transcendent. >> That's fascinating. I remember walking around in Pompei and just being like this is crazy. >> This is Yeah, dude. I was so impressed

25:36with Pompei >> and this it this makes sense. I know there's always a lot of memes about, you know, the sort of story about the Romans made concrete that we can't figure out. And it one of the things about this story that's perseverance is really such a fundamental aspect of like scientific research because one like you're constantly battling just to maintain funding to continue to do the to search and like people give up after a while if you can't meet some kind of quarterly >> annual whatever metric that is independent of just the curiosity of it. Yeah. Um, so kudos to the team. I It's