First recorded predation in Mexican waters

21:52>> that's exactly right. That's exactly right. It's the intelligence aspect that's interesting to me. >> And more than even the intelligence, it's >> culture, I think, that we're getting at. Okay. And I'm going to get into that a little bit later, but that's the key word that why I got interested because to me, I'm fascinated with human culture, right? And it seems like we are there's a few papers that we're going to go through that talk about animal culture and I find that just extremely fascinating. >> So the culture wars are not human specific. >> No, no, no. In this case, they they probably have a hijenous culture compared to ours. But actually, no, that's that's not even true. Even the orcas have dialects among their populations, which is fascinating to think about, right? That like different

22:34populations of orcas might not understand each other >> if you're not on this side of the equator. >> Yeah. like the Pacific ones and the [laughter] Atlantic ones are going to be like, "Why do you talk funny? He looks like me, but he talks really funny, [laughter] >> you know." Um, it's a groundbreaking paper, I think, from um, Higua Rivas, published in November this year, Frontiers in Marine Science. The idea is they've it's the first ever recorded orca predation on young great white sharks in Mexican Waters off the coast of Baja California. Okay. Um, it's actually the second time that we've seen orcas attacking great whites. The first time was off the coast of South Africa, so it's pretty far away, but the technique is remarkably similar.

23:16>> Okay. >> Okay. Which is kind of weird. >> Yeah. Meaning it's trans it transcends. >> It may be. Yeah. Yeah. We're not I'm not going to say that it does and the paper does not claim that it does, but I just find it kind of funny. Right. Um, but that's that's a tall order to make. But I will show later on that whales have done this. Okay. >> Okay. So, >> the first encounter was on August 15, 2020. They found a pot of five female orcas, one adult and four subad adults. And what they did was the one orca