The scientific beef with the 2025 paper

48:09covered this in episode 5 and in a slightly different similar but slightly different way. >> So, now let's talk about that. >> Okay. >> All right? >> Okay. >> So, this particular paper is coming out of Zhengzhou University in um China, also Nanjing University in China. And you said Hunan University, right? In China. These are all sort of like in the northern Yeah. central part of China. >> I want to just pronounce it I think it's >> And in the east. >> Hanan versus Hunan. Just to be just be >> Cuz they're different. >> Sure. Fair. Totally enough. And um the paper that we covered last year >> Yes. >> was out of the Shanghai Advanced Research >> Yes. >> in Physical Sciences Center in China, right? And that was synthesis of bulk hexagonal diamond. Already funny because

48:52these guys use synthesis of bulk hexagonal diamond and these guys are just like >> Bulk hexagonal diamond. >> Right? Okay. Also in nature. >> Yes. >> Now, this new paper >> Mhm. >> does not cite that older one from last year. >> No. >> Okay. I thought that was pretty hilarious. Because the reviewer comments in reviewer two actually does acknowledge this that a recent paper has come out >> Yeah. >> that shows bulk hexagonal synthesis of bulk hexagonal diamond. But he says that this paper was submitted before that one got accepted. So, it's not like these guys knew about that paper, right?

49:33>> But what that also tells me is that these guys lie and other authors from Zhengzhou University had the chance to cite that paper and did not. Because they saw it in the reviewer comments. Also, if you're in the field, you're not going to not be aware of a nature paper that came out saying the same thing, right? And in they were in the process of revision, which means they could have easily snuck in that >> Yep. >> that, but they didn't. >> Yep. >> Okay, I think already that's hilarious. Okay, there's clearly something >> didn't sample your your your chord from your 1967 hit. No, no, no, no, no. >> Yeah, yeah. And that same that same group um from the Shanghai University

50:14also did another paper in February. >> Mhm. >> But this was in nature materials. And again, it was a general approach for synthesizing hexagonal diamond using post graphite phases. So, slightly different method, but still >> Right. >> no mention of even this paper. >> This this this is >> Like this is some beef, dude. >> is this is what beef looks like in the in the research community. >> something, right? So